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  • CA POPTS Bill Granted Reconsideration

    In an unusual turn of events, California Assembly Bill 783 has been granted reconsideration and is scheduled to be heard by the Senate Standing Committee on Business, Professions, and Economic Development on June 20. AB 783 failed to obtain the 5 votes needed to pass out of the Senate committee on Monday. Three members voted in support of the bill, 2 against, and 4 abstained. The bill would amend the California Business and Professions Code and the California Corporations Code to specifically add licensed PTs to the list of "healing arts practitioners" who may be employees of medical, chiropractic, and podiatric corporations. For more information on the bill and the California Chapter's efforts to defeat such physician-owned physical therapy services (POPTS) arrangements, click here.


    • Is this issue amenable to a law to allow physicians and PT's to be partners in a business to provide various services, and that this partnership is the only way PT's and docs can work together. A doc could not employ a PT but could be in partnership with a PT. Just a thought. Gary Lusin, PT, MS, LAT, CSCS

      Posted by Gary Lusin on 6/17/2011 2:35 PM

    • These are trying times. We should promote that we're peers not 'ancillary' person, or 'healing arts' practitioners. It is crazy that podiatry & chiropractic practices are being considered as 'uber' practitioners to our profession. We need to fight this bill with every means possible. Thank you. Britt

      Posted by Britt Smith PT, DPT, OCS, FAAOMPT on 6/17/2011 2:44 PM

    • Physical therapist in South Carolina set the tone. MDs are not limited to practice medicine because they cannot own PT. As much as Chiros fight to suppress the practice of PT. No PT should ever for a Chiro. Chiros should not sign POCs of a PT. We need to protect our profession, our right to practice as deemed by the APTA. We all have governing bodies to define our scope of practice. So MD or chiro should not be able to determine how our practice act is defined.

      Posted by Matthew on 6/17/2011 4:18 PM


      Posted by DR JIM L KELLER on 6/17/2011 5:13 PM

    • Perhaps the law should be changed instead to let medical doctors, chiropractors, and podiatrists be employees of physical therapy corporations.

      Posted by Rick Wickstrom on 6/17/2011 5:20 PM

    • This is just one more way in which physicians try and maintain a monopoly on the health care delivery system along with insurance companies.

      Posted by John Phinney PT DPT OCS on 6/17/2011 7:25 PM

    • Problem would not exist if the majority of our profession behaved more professionally and saw themselves at the same level as MD's and DPM's and not "Allied Health Providers". PTs who work in referral for profit arrangements have no problem with this, make all kinds of excuses why it is better for them overall, and ignore the fact that they are exploited and demean our profession. Somehow our schools and clinical rotations have to do a better job of promoting that professionalism such as in dress, introducing oneself as "DR" and last name, the way they practice and behave in front of the patient and public at large, etc. The term "therapist" has also been diluted and diminished by others such as MT's with minimal education but the public sees as equal to us PT's. We may want to change our name by removing the term "therapist" possibly physiopathologist or something like that which physiatrists have done. Until we have a better image by the public, those of us who strive for a higher order of things and autonomy will be constantly brought down and struggle with those in power trying to control us.

      Posted by Michael Levrini, DHSc, PT ECS on 6/18/2011 12:40 AM

    • As a small clinic trying to survive in a city where many Ortho surgeons feel that they need to own their own P.T. Clinics, I feel the frustration of the little guy trying to get referrals and knowing that my referrals are directed to these POPTS clinics so the physicians can make money off their referrals and not for better care. This bill is the embodiment of this trend. Every P.T. should be sceaming no to this bill and should be pushing for equality in the health care system.

      Posted by Dallen on 6/18/2011 3:16 AM

    • Vote for Small Business. Vote for eliminating potential referral-for-profit situations. Vote to say that physical therapy is not an ancillary service. Vote to reduce conflict of interest. VOTE NO ON AB 783.

      Posted by Christopher Lanski, PT, DPT on 6/18/2011 5:50 PM

    • Keep up the fight Cal PT's!!! In Missouri we passed anti-POPTS legislation in 1992 and hardly a legislative session has gone by that some group doesn't try to overturn the Statute. This is a patient protection and choice issue as well as protecting the integrity of our profession.

      Posted by Bill Hopfinger PT on 6/19/2011 9:33 PM

    • I have been a PT for more than 17 yrs. POPTS Have been illegal all my career. There's plenty of consumer protection reasons and evidence for POPTS to be illegal. I can't help but think AB783 and it's viability in this committee is a clear example of corruption of the system that is suppose to protect the law and consumers. AB783 sure shakes my faith in the system. If this bill becomes law my practice will probably be in jeopardy. If it's not one thing it's another. I just want to make a fair living and take care of my patients. That's all.

      Posted by Sharynn Landers, PT, MPT on 6/20/2011 12:34 AM

    • hi I am from Michigan. This bill should not pass. See that this bill is not attached with other bill as back door entry.I firmly believe that POPTS is in existence because of bad, money greedy ,Physical therapist who wants to sale their profession. Without physical therapist POPTS can not run. So start busting physical therapist who are working for POPTS then run for physician and chiropractor. To grow our profession it must be independent. Fact is that if threat comes from within profession or out side profession we must destroy it Deepak

      Posted by deepak on 6/20/2011 8:19 AM

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