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In this episode of the PTJ Podcast, Editor-in-Chief Steven George, PT, PhD, FAPTA, talks with Gregory Hartley, PT, DPT, FAPTA, and Neva Kirk-Sanchez, PT, PhD, about their recently published perspective, which defines the health systems science framework and advocates for the framework to be a foundational pillar in physical therapy education. Listen as the authors discuss how the framework can contribute to better clinical outcomes, support the development of community-based interventions, and better prepare students to be leaders in health care.

Hartley and Kirk-Sanchez are co-authors of the article “Educating for Impact: The Imperative of Health Systems Science in Physical Therapy.” Read the article on the PTJ website and follow PTJ on LinkedIn and Bluesky for more research updates. 

Our Speakers

Steven George, PT, PhD, FAPTA, is editor-in-chief of PTJ: Physical Therapy & Rehabilitation Journal. He is the Laszlo Ormandy Distinguished Professor in Orthopaedic Surgery, and therapeutic area lead in musculoskeletal and surgical sciences at the Duke Clinical Research Institute at Duke University.

Gregory Hartley, PT, DPT, FAPTA, is an associate professor in the department of physical therapy at the University of Miami.

Neva Kirk-Sanchez, PT, PhD, is a professor in the department of physical therapy at the University of Miami.


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